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U.S. Peace Council Blows the Whistle on the U.S.A. and Its Allies in the Manufactured War on Syria

Following is the transcript in its entirety of the U.S. Peace Council presenting at the United Nations in September, 2016. I've taken the liberty of transcribing every word because of the importance of the topic and what was brought to light. (If you find a typographical error or errors, please, notify us by copying and pasting the error(s) into the comments section, so we can make the necessary corrections.) 

When Governments Lie, People Die

Delegation of U.S. Peace Council (UPPC)

Alfred Marder, President of the U.S. Peace Council
Henry Lowendorf, Member of the Executive Board of the U.S. Peace Council, Head of the Syria Delegation
Madelyn Hoffman, Executive Director of New Jersey Peace Action, Member of the Syria Delegation
Donna Nassor, Professor and Lawyer also part of U.S. Peace Council
Joe Jamison, Member of the Executive Board of the U.S. Peace Council, Member of the Syria Delegation
H.E. Bashar Ja’afari, Permanent Representative of the Syrian Arab Republic
Mary Compton, Member of the Executive Board of the U.S. Peace Council (not present during this press conference)

War Propaganda

Alfred Marder:   I’m Alfred Marder and I’m president of the U.S. Peace Council. It was quite evident to us over several years that what we were hearing and reading from the press was obviously confusing the American people and the peace movements, the large vocal anti-war movements that exist in our country. We saw the same pattern of every other invasion where the leadership of the country was demonized and therefore used as an excuse to intervene in the internal affairs. Our organization U.S. Peace Council is a firm advocate of the United Nations Charter with deep respect for the sovereignty of all countries. Respecting the rights of the people of those countries to determine their own destiny. It was our consideration that we had to reach out to the U.S. peace movement and ask that they participate in a delegation to Syria to see for themselves what exists. To speak to both officials and non-officials, civil society to try to determine for themselves, independently, the situation in Syria, and the road to peace.

That is our responsibility. Our responsibility is to reach out first to the U.S. Peace Movement and then to the American people. The campaign to confuse the American has been intense. And it is our purpose to try to bring some light, some understanding which can perhaps lead to the American people demanding an end to the intervention and lead to peace in Syria. We reached out to many peace organizations in our country to try to get a broad delegation to go. I would be less than honest if I did not say that some did not come because they were fearful of going into a war zone. Others demonstrated the confusion that does exist because of reading the propaganda and a barrage of unfortunately the media which did such a one-sided story. We feel we have that obligation and it’s a tribute to those who went that they overcame those obstacles and agreed to go, and may I point out, paid their own way to go. So I’d like to first introduce the co-leader of the delegation and a representative of the U.S. and member of the executive board of the UN Peace Council, Dr. Henry Lowendorf.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   Thank you, Al, thank you Ambassador. Our delegation was co-led by Jerry Condon who is the Vice-President of Veterans for Peace. He’s not able to be here; he’s active right now in Seattle, Washington where he lives in that area. Two other members of the delegation are unable to be here Judy Bello, who lives in Rochester and Vanessa Beeley, who is an independent journalist who has returned to Syria to report directly what she is seeing as she investigates further, the truth of what’s happening in Syria. I think what Alfred said is so true. We are facing a mass of propaganda that has demonized the Syrian government, demonized its leaders, an effort that has preceded every other intervention that the United States has made over many, many decades in order to convince people that it’s okay for “humanitarian” reasons to overthrow a government and to replace it with – whatever. U.S. prefers a govt that is not independent that is a willing participant in whatever the U.S. policy is.

So what we saw in Damascus, and what we saw in the two villages we visited outside Damascus belies the propaganda that has overwhelmed U.S. It's hard, it’s hard for those of us who have been in the peace movement for a long time, it’s hard for us to ignore this propaganda, it is so…well-orchestrated.  We spoke to members of industry, the Chamber of Industry. We spoke to leaders in the student union, the National Student Union. We spoke with NGOs that are involved that are involved in taking care of the orphans of those who have died in this war, on both sides. They don’t discriminate. Orphans are orphans. Whatever side they [sic] were fighting on. These young people have to be taken care of. We spoke with an NGO who trains women who don’t have a skill in sewing because they lost the breadwinner in their family. We spoke to an NGO where they’re trying to deal with reconciliation and trying to make sure that supplies get to those areas of the country that are under the control of the terrorists, the mercenaries. And we make a distinction between opposition, the political opposition with whom we also met, and the terrorists and the mercenaries with whom we did not meet. We met people in Syria who work nonviolently to bring about change. We learned of their efforts to bring about change working in opposition to the government – working with the government – but nonviolently. We met with government officials. We met with the Minister of Administration. We met with the Administer of Health. We met with the Minister of Reconciliation. A whole approach to bringing back those Syrians who have for one reason or another joined the mercenaries and the terrorists. And my fellow delegates will speak, I think, about some of the details of these, but I want to give you just an overview of whom we met with.

We saw for ourselves the damage that was done to the university. Even while we were there a shell fell into the School of Architecture, killing students and faculty. And the students, themselves, were rebuilding the damage. We saw villages that are basically Christian villages that are besieged by the terrorists but have now been liberated. And he damage done to a shrine in a village called Maaloula which is a village where they still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus. And the attacks on the Christian population

One of the things I bring back – the two things I want to mention, finally, that we feel are really important:   one is, that while the United States would like to divide the Syrians up by religion or within a religion by the different beliefs within that religion – there wasn’t a Syrian we talked to who would accept that. We spoke to the Grand Mufti and he said, people always ask me how many Muslims there are in Syria and his response is always 23 million. That’s the population of Syria. And when we talked to the Bishop of one of the Orthodox churches he answered the same thing:   the number of Christians is 23 million. We will not allow ourselves to be divided up the way the United States has divided up the people of Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, or so many other countries. We won’t allow that. And that unity, I believe, has led to the ability of Syrians to withstand an invasion of the most powerful country in the world, its most powerful allies in Europe, its most powerful allies in the Middle East – with what is a vicious attack on the Syrian people.

The second is the sanctions. I have to admit that I did not know, before I went, that the United States has imposed sanctions on Syria in a way that’s similar to the sanctions that the United States imposed on Iraq in the nineteen nineties, in order to weaken that country and that government, that the United States admits killed 500,000 children in Iraq, during the nineteen nineties sanctions. That set of sanctions means that the Syrian people cannot get medicines that they desperately need. They cannot get factory parts that they need to maintain their economy. They can’t get infant formula, and many other things. Their students cannot go abroad. Their lawyers are separated from the rest of the international legal system because of those sanctions. These sanctions are not reported in the U.S. media, to my knowledge, and we need to know about them. Another way to weaken…these sanctions are another way to weaken the Syrian government and the Syrian state.

So that’s my overview. I would like to ask my fellow delegates to add what they want to this. We have representation from different peace organizations and peace movements within the United States. We tried to make it as broad, as Al Marder said, as broad a delegation as we could, so maybe Madelyn, you would like to…

Madelyn Hoffman:   My name is Madelyn Hoffman. I’m the Director of New Jersey Peace Action. I went as an individual representing myself, but I’ve been a peace activist for sixteen years, and I went to Syria because I felt that it was important to learn from the Syrian people themselves what was actually happening in Syria, because there has not been enough of, or a focused enough response by the peace movement in the United States to what’s been going on in Syria. And I can’t add a whole lot to what Henry and Al have said, but I want to make this one particular point because I think it’s very important, and it gets to the core of everything that’s going on.

This is not a civil war in Syria. That’s probably the first thing we heard and we heard it over and over again. It is not President Assad against his own people. It is President Assad and the Syrian people altogether in unity against outside forces, outside mercenary forces, terror organizations – and the names change every day, or every other day, to try to protect their identity and maybe keep the connection between the country that funded it and that group kind of a little bit more nebulous. But there are groups, mercenary forces supported by Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the United States, and underneath it, Israel, the state of Israel. And these outside mercenary forces are the ones that are terrorizing the Syrian people and are attempting to divide the Syrian people. I remember when the U.S. invaded Iraq, our organization was against it well before the invasion ever began, but once the invasion was over and the United States was setting up a government, we talked to many Iraqis who said, we’re not Sunni and Shiah. We’re not Sunni, Shiah and Kurds. But the United States is trying to divide U.S. that way. And we got exactly the same message when we were in Syria. “We are Syrians.” As Henry said before, whether you’re Christian, Muslim or other, you’re Syrian. And that’s one of the things that’s enabled the Assad government to withstand five-plus years of this kind of outside attack. When Saddam Hussein, when it was time for the U.S. to unseat Saddam Hussein, after years of sanctions and two wars, he fell like that [finger snap]. When it was time, when the United States decided it was time for Gaddafi to go, he fell like that [finger snap]. But when it was time, the United States decided it was time for Assad to go, he did not fall, and why? Because he has the support of 23 million Syrian people, and it was more before all these refugees were created, and refugees were sent around the world.

The whole idea of regime change – the policy of regime change, if you will – it’s illegal under international law. United States has no right to do that. The United States has no right to decide for the Syrian who their government leaders should be. And so during my time there in Syria, I felt that over and over again. Who are we, why are we presuming to know what’s best for the Syrian people? 

And the other part of this that I think people in the United States need to know is that the Assad government provides free healthcare. Free, universal healthcare to everyone. It’s part of the government’s mission. Free education for everyone, from primary school all the way through even to university and medical school. And when we met with this one particular person from the nonviolent opposition, we asked him, “Well, tell U.S., what are some of your grievances with the Assad government,” and he said “Well, you just heard that it costs about fifty dollars a year for people going to medical school. We think that’s too high.” He was being somewhat facetious, of course, but these are the kinds of policies that our citizens here in the United States are calling for:   tuition-free college, universal healthcare. So the Assad regime—nope—the Assad government—excuse me, is in the business of doing this and providing this to the people, and without a doubt, even the nonviolent opposition parties who had issue with issues of democracy or corruption prior to 2011—everyone has thrown in, thrown themselves behind the Assad government because that’s the best hope, the best bet for the Syrian people.

Lastly, I think, I want to echo what Henry said, that to a person, people asked that the sanctions be lifted because those sanctions, while were there somebody came and said a certain pharmaceutical company, which the name I forget at the moment, was refusing to send childhood immunizations from the United States to Syria—causing great harm to Syrian people. That’s not how this country, or any country should act within the world’s community. So the sanctions, as we’ve learned many times, do not hurt the governments they’re intended to hurt. They hurt the people. And so, they need to be lifted.

We also heard that the border between Turkey and Syria needs to be closed so that this pipelined of trained groups, terror groups, is blocked and no more of those groups get into Syria. And finally, and this is where we come in as the United States – that the United States needs to stop supporting some of those outside terror groups, all the support for the outside terror groups needs to be withdrawn and allow the Syrians to fend for themselves. The Syrian Arab army is fighting for its life and fighting for the life of Syria and we need, as a country, to acknowledge our role, what we are doing to cause harm and destruction to the Syrian people and we need to stop it, and we need to stop it now. And that’s one of the things I’ll be saying over and over again once I return from Syria

Donna Nassor:   Okay, my name is Donna Nassor. I have been a human rights and peace activist for as long as I can remember. I’m not going to tell you how many years because then you’ll know how old I am. I was honored to be asked to be part of this delegation, and I am grateful that I had the opportunity to go and see for myself, to sit face-to-face with the Syrian people, to share this time with this delegation so that we can all work together coming back in cooperation to try to bring the message and the truth back to the United States. As an American citizen it is shameful for me to admit what my government is doing in the sovereign country of Syria. We have no legal right to impose these illegal sanctions. In fact, these sanctions, allegedly the government says are against the government of Syria, but in fact it’s against the people, civil society, people who are attempting to maintain the infrastructure, the healthcare, the safety of all Syrian people. One of the things that stood out to me is not only the lack of medication and the fact that Syrian children are dying because they can’t get chemotherapy meds into the country, because of the illegal sanctions that the U.S. and the west has imposed. Also, they’re not allowing parts and material to get to businesses who are trying to maintain. And they’re trying to maintain for more than one reason, and not just to continue to make money, but to employ people, because when people have no way to earn a living they become desperate. And we know that some of the Syrian who may have chosen to join the terrorists mostly for economic reasons because they couldn’t earn a living, and their benefactors, the U.S. and all the others who are collaborating together to fund this terrorism are paying people very well to participate in this illegal activity against the Syrian people. So, there are so many ways, subtle ways that the U.S. sanctions are affecting the Syrians, and when we spoke to business people, they mentioned to us, “We’re desperately trying to stay in business. We’re desperately trying to keep our people employed, so they don’t become desperate and they don’t then feel like they have no other choice.

Something else that’s very important is we did have the opportunity to speak with civil society, not just the official organizations, and we met with people who have witnessed and lived through and shared their experiences with the mercenaries and explain unspeakable things – and I’m not going to go into detail about what those were, but it was very difficult to sit in the presence of someone whose child was assassinated, whose niece was kidnapped and is still missing, whose daughter was kidnapped, raped and then sent back, male and female being heard about. So this is what the U.S. is financing. This is what the U.S. is backing, and this is not okay, and as an American citizen beyond being a peace and human rights activist, I will not be silent about what I learned. And we have to take responsibility for what’s happening in this country and the lack of morality when it comes to our foreign policy and what we are doing elsewhere.

I do want to say that we had an almost two hour meeting with President Assad, which we were all very grateful for. After listening to all the voices of civil society and the groups and the government officials that we met with – if you think about it, it makes no sense what the U.S. media and Western media is reporting. It makes no sense that Assad, who is trying to maintain the infrastructure and look toward the future for the Syrian people would be the one destroying hospitals and all these places that the U.S. media and the Western media are claiming that he is the one responsible for destroying. It just doesn’t make sense. He is interested in the future for Syria. He told us, flat out, “You know when this is over with we can have another election. If they don’t want me they don’t want me, that’s fine but for now, I am the…I had been elected to lead this country and that is what I will do.”

The last piece that I want to talk about is, having been a student of restorative and transitional justice for many years, I was really very, very impressed and excited about the fact that they have a Ministry of Reconciliation – that even in the middle of trauma that the Syrian people are involved in at this point, they are looking towards the future, and they’re dealing with people in a restorative and healing way, already. So, if some Syrian citizen has joined the mercenaries, they’re literally going and if they put down their arms they are welcomed back into Syrian society. And they’re fed and their families are fed. Justice techniques are being used so that you don’t have a group of Syrians now who are feeling outside of society. So everything that I’ve said, I will continue to say, and I will continue to share with other people, and I feel now that since we have been there, we are no capable of sharing truth that unfortunately our media has not been offering the world and we intend to not be silent from here forward. Thank you all for listening. 

Joe Jamison:   My name is Joe Jamison. I’m a coordinator of the Queen’s Peace Council, which is a affiliate or a branch of the U.S. Peace Council. My background is the trade union movement, so I’m accustomed to speaking bluntly, so forgive me if I do that.

I associate myself with all comments of my colleagues here, but I’m reminded of the famous comment of the American writer, Mark Twain, who once said that it’s not what we don’t know that gets us into trouble; what gets us into trouble is what we think we know for sure that just ain’t so. And that’s what I think of when I think about my fellow Americans and what they know about Syria and what they think they know about the war and the Syrian government and the Syrian leadership. What they think they know, I’ll argue, just ain’t so. And so, we have to take that on, because we’re getting into trouble. Our delegation came to Syria with political views and assumptions, but we were determined to be skeptics, and to doubt everything, to meet everyone we could, and to confirm or disconfirm received opinion and established conventional wisdom, and to follow the facts wherever they led us. I concluded a number of things from the trip. I won’t go over things that my colleagues have already mentioned.

    How can you have a war on terrorism when 
war itself is terrorism? Howard Zinn

The motive in my opinion of the U.S. war is to destroy an independent, Arab, secular state. It’s the last secular, Arab state standing, and it wants a client regime, like Libya, like Iraq, like a number of other countries you could mention. The U.S. hostility to independent Syria long precedes 2011, the beginning of the war. U.S., I concluded, claims to be against ISIS terrorism, yet has been loathe to fight a really consistent fight against terrorism. Certain privileged groups, such as the Al-Nusra Front, the names shift, are called moderate rebels because they fight the Syrian government and the U.S. wants that. They are not moderate. They beheaded a twelve-year old boy when we were there. We saw it on youtube and on TV. The motives of the U.S. proxy states are somewhat different. Sectarian motives and regional power rivalries affect Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The Wahhabis ideology, the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood, is a sick, medieval, backward ideology. It drives the Saudi state. It motivates that state to finance this war, and Damascus, by contrast, promotes a socially inclusive and pluralistic form of Islam, and we met the leaders of that form of Islam and they are humane and Democratic minded people and have every reason to join with the American people I stopping this insane support for Wahhabism, which is behind so much terrorism in the world.

Those of my fellow countrymen who are dogmatic about “Assad demonization” are not going to like what I have to say now, which is that the Syrian government is popular and for that reason it is winning the war. The battle of Aleppo will probably be decided relatively soon and may be the last hurrah, in my opinion, of the foreign mercenaries. The president is popular. His government is recognized as legitimate by the UN. It contests and wins elections. The elections are monitored. There is a parliament which contains opposition parties. We’ve met them. There is a significant nonviolent opposition, which is trying to work constructively for its own social vision. Some of it is inside the government, which is in effect is a government of national unity. Some of it is in the parliament. We met them. The Minister of Reconciliation, as some of us have said deals directly with armed groups, and he’s an opposition leader.

So let me conclude. Which is that U.S. policy on Syria regime change is not wrong in its details, it is wrong in its fundamentals. It is wrong root and branch. It violates the UN Charter. It violates international law. The U.S. is bombing parts of Syria without the consent of legitimate government. That violates international law. The sanctions violate international law. I won’t dwell on that because Madelyn and Donna have already discussed that. I think, out of our trip, flow certain tasks. I think it is the task of the U.S. anti-war movement to unite around a different vision than what it has united around thus far. Thus far it has united around a feeble vision that is partly false, that partly accepts the dominant, State Department, corporate media narrative. We must directly and forthrightly U.S. policy, if we are to shift U.S. public opinion. Some organizations, alas, buy into the dominant mainstream media narrative. They have not covered themselves in glory, by so-doing.

This is a dangerous moment. Without mentioning names, one of the apparently leading candidates for president is surrounded my military advisors who are talking about no-fly zones, which means air war against the Syrian air force and the Russians. Or boots on the ground, which means U.S. invasion. If we’re not frightened by that talk, we should be frightened by that talk. This is a dangerous moment. We have to change the basic U.S. policy. We need to have a different kind of anti-war movement. And we must begin to shift U.S. public opinion. Thank you.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   There may be some questions.  Please, please.

Luke Vargas:  Hi, good afternoon, good morning, rather, Luke Vargas with Talk Media News. Question for Mr. Marder to begin. You said that the media is giving a one-sided story of Syria, a one-sided presentation. When you are not invited to Syria, to look at Damascus, where do you receive your information about what’s happening in Syria, to what outlets do you turn? And a question for Mr. Lowendorf, you mentioned that I believe its partly a quote but what you saw in Syria, rather in the capitol, belies the well-orchestrated propaganda about Syria. That would seem a bit like saying you’ve seen middle America because you’ve seen Manhattan. Do you believe a visit to homes or Aleppo or other cities around the country would enable you to speak more about the situation across the country as a whole?

Al Marder:   Those of us who are in the peace movement have to read the same press that everybody else reads, and try to determine the issues. I just want to add to what I said before. I don’t know if people realize that for the last eight years, every day, the U.S. has been involved in wars. Every single day of the Obama administration has been devoted to war, and if you compared the media approach, the U.S. State Department approach to Syria, there’s a familiarity. It’s Noriega, it’s Hussein, it’s Gaddafi, one after another in order to convince the American people that we have the moral responsibility to intervene, and unfortunately, unfortunately, this institution plays along. That’s it. This is not accidental. This has confused some of my dearest allies and friends, who have said, just like I said, about the others, How can you trust without looking at the major issue—what right do we have to intervene into the sovereign responsibility of a people? We’re hoping to go back to our friends and allies in the U.S. peace movement and say, we don’t have to agree on Assad, we don’t have to agree on the government, what we have to agree on is the sovereign right of a people to determine their own destiny. Period. That the media has played a nefarious role. It’s confused people who have spent their entire lives fighting against war, in the struggle for peace.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:  (to a female reporter in the audience): wait a minute, I have to answer his second part if that’s okay.

Female reporter: (does not identify herself) Well we’ve waited through 50 minutes of your commentary and that leaves us ten minutes to ask questions, so if you really want the media to understand what’s going on, you need to hear from the media.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   But he asked a second question, so I’m answering his question

Female reporter:  Okay, but there are other people.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   I’ll be brief and then we’ll take you—

Same female reporter:  OK good—

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   So you asked, ok, so we saw you know, we saw five days, six days of Syria, how do we know the truth? We only know what we saw, and what we saw goes against everything that we read in the United States. What we do, right now, has urged you to stop listening to the people who the U.S. government brings out from the Muslim Brotherhood, and from ISIS, and all the other terrorist organizations. Stop listening to them and go to Syria. The president of Syria said, Bring delegations. See for yourself. That’s the answer. What we saw is what we’re reporting. You don’t have to trust us, but at least accept that there’s another picture.

Now I’ll take your question, please.

Same female reporter:   Yeah, who finances your group? Does the Syrian government give you money to fly to Damascus and travel around Syria? And given that you talked to Bashar Al-Assad for two hours, did you bring up the issue of barrel bombing by the Syrian government and its allies? And did you discuss the cessation of hostilities that are supposed to be happening? That’s just some of my questions, thanks.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:  Everyone on the delegation paid his or her own way to Syria. It’s twelve to fifteen hundred dollars round-trip. The Syrian government the Syrian government provided us with security and access to all of the people we asked to see and visit, as many as we could. The Syrian government also covered half of our accommodations and we covered the rest. That’s the truth. You can make of it whatever you want. In terms of meeting with President Assad, we did not ask about barrel bombing. Barrel bombing is a term that the United States uses, like Scud missiles, a nasty word. What we learned from him and from others is that when the terrorists destroy something they show pictures and say it’s the Assad government. Bombing, no matter who does it, is likely to kill civilians. We know that. They know that. But when an outside force, like the United States and its allies, invade with mercenaries you expect the consequences that we’ve seen, which is a lot of loss of life and a lot of people fearing for their lives leaving. Most of the people who leave however, do not rush to the terrorists’ side, they rush to the government’s side. Those people who left the country left for various reasons…the part who could afford to leave. But most of the people who have left their homes have moved to the government’s side, because that’s where they’re safe and that’s who they trust.

Same female reporter:  Uh, so you’re saying barrel bombs do not exist? Or this is an invention of the U.S. government?

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   This is just the term that the government uses—

Same female reporter:  What do you call them?

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:   They’re bombs! Why do you call them barrel bombs?

Same female reporter: Barrels? Because they’re in barrels, or they’re tanks.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:    (unintelligible)

Same female reporter:    Okay, what are they in?

Dr. Henry Lowendorf:    Look, you have a question (to another reporter).

Male Reporter 2:  (does not identify himself) Sure, I wanted to pick up on, when you said, “this institution plays along with it,” Mr. Marder, I think you were referring to the UN. So I just want, and any of you are free to take the question, sort of, what do you think the UN’s role in terms of it has a humanitarian presence. We don’t hear that much about the it from sanctions. But while you were there did you have any interactions with the UN presence on the ground, what do you think of the UN’s performance, and if any of you saw, you know, there was a media area there yesterday, sponsored by the U.S. mission, did what did you think of that, I can imagine, but if anyone wants to that saw it…thanks.

Madelyn  Hoffman:   …on the issue of the United Nations and the United Nations’ role one of the members of our delegation, Vanessa Beeley, who was unable to be here, she’s still in Damascus, has done a lot of investigative, independent reporting on what’s gone on in and throughout Syria, and we also heard, so we heard from her on the role of the United Nations we also from a young man whose family is still in one of the villages that’s controlled by outside mercenary forces. And he has independently trying to arrange for food drop into that area, because he can’t go in to see his family, his family can’t come out. But he has said that the aid is not getting through. And Vanessa Beeley has said that the aid is not getting through, and one of the reasons for that is that it’s being intercepted, either by the outside mercenary groups, or at times, we have heard stories that United Nations aid is not getting through either because it’s going to the wrong side. To the outside mercenary forces, not to the civilians in Syria, who deserve and need to have that aid. This is all probably, independently verified. I don’t have the information here at my fingertips. But the role of the United Nations hasn’t always been what it should be in this particular conflict. And I’ll end there.

Donna Nassor:   The only thing I did want to say, quickly, is that I recommend—there are two independent journalists on the ground in Damascus—Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett. Eva’s Canadian and Vanessa’s from the UK. And they’re still there right now. They’re writing, they’re visiting locales and they’re reporting on the ground, talking to people, collecting the voices of Syrians, and I recommend that you find them. They’re both on facebook and then you can look up their articles that they’ve written. Because they’ve been published. Thank you.

H.E. Bashar Ja’afari:  I just wanted to say that there was an informal meeting of the Security Council, I think some members of the Security Council yesterday, on the question of Syria and apparently two doctors from one of these organizations that are affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood were brought in to testify again about so-called crimes that the Syrian government is committing on the ground, and I was wondering if anybody could pursue this issue and find out what the story is, because it seems to me that once again the propaganda and even military efforts are being intensified almost the Syrian government almost closed down the connections to Aleppo. So, we should probably expect more intensified fighting again on the side of the west to recapture the ground lost.

Dr. Henry Lowendorf I just want to say something about, uh, there’s a translation of an interview with a Doctor Antaki, who lives in Aleppo, who lives in the government-controlled part of Aleppo. Most of us weren’t aware that the government actually has most control and protects most of Aleppo and the terrorists have a smaller portion, and we hear only about and from the terrorist-controlled side, but Dr. Antaki, you can find the interview if you search from Vanessa Beeley and the interview.

You had a question. Oh, you can’t. Well, we’re available to speak if you want to continue this discussion.

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